I ordered a size up as recommended, well actually I ordered 2 sizes. They are a teeny bit big but the size below didn't go near so do go a size up. The best feature, besides the external pockets which have been commented on many times, is the grippy bits - no more sliding forwards into the hubby or anywhere else. After spending 5 days in NI at the NW200 I can confirm they are waterproof, breathable and comfortable. And they look great.